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    Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by pbaddict on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:09 am

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    MANILA, Philippines – The San Miguel group may have just added a fourth team in the PBA with its recent reacquisition of the Coca-Cola bottling company.

    This was learned by the Inquirer from a very unimpeachable company source after SMC president Ramon S. Ang reportedly met and closed a deal with Coca-Cola Philippines’ CEO Bill Schultz recently.

    The San Miguel group actually used to own Coca-Cola before selling it in 2004.

    Part of that deal was for SMC to have a right-of-first-refusal should the present Coca-Cola management decide to sell the franchise, which SMC is now exercising.

    At the same time, the local executives of Coca-Cola, which played as Powerade and finished a surprising second to Talk ’N Text in the Philippine Cup last Sunday, are desperately trying to keep the Tigers even after the reported meeting between Ang and the Schultz.

    Details of the purchase are being kept under wraps though the Inquirer also learned that SMC has already made a payment to Schultz in what could be the highest amount ever paid for a PBA franchise.

    The Barako Bull squad was the last franchise that was put up for sale, with Bert Lina’s Air21 bagging the rights reportedly for close to P50 million last year with George Chua still retaining part ownership.

    San Miguel’s purchase of the Coca-Cola franchise is reportedly easily double that amount, more so after the Tigers went deep into the playoffs and unveiled several superstars in the making in their lineup.

    Selling the franchise has been in the minds of the foreign management of Coca-Cola for the past couple of years.

    The source said the Tigers will reportedly remain intact until the end of the current season.

    With Gary David and rookies Marcio Lassiter and JV Casio blooming into superstars, Coca-Cola/Powerade can rake in some more money by trading/selling them before the SMC takeover granted that it wasn’t included in the sale.

    San Miguel already has Petron Blaze, B-Meg and Barangay Ginebra in the PBA, and should this deal be consummated, there will be only a total of four companies/personalities owning the 10 teams in the league.

    Manny V. Pangilinan owns the Tropang Texters and Meralco, while Lina runs Air21 and Barako Bull.

    Only billionaire Wilfred Steven Uytengsu of Alaska and the Raymund Yu-Terry Que tandem of Rain or Shine remain as the only owners with just one team in the PBA.

    Source: Musong R. Castillo, Philippine Daily Inquirer



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    Re: Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by devil unleashed on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:30 pm

    cocker wrote:
    arbie wrote:

    pakipaliwanag nga kung saan nawala ang CREDIBILITY? ganyan lahat ng sinasabi nyo -- ipaliwanag nyo muna kung bakit mawawala kapag dumami ang team ng isang company?! saka kayo magreklamo na walang KREDIBILIDAD ang PBA kapag taga SMC na rin ang COMMISSIONER! ano yan walang board members?


    explain? no thank you.

    i don't wanna waste my time explaining something that is common sense to begin with.

    if you don't get it, then you won't. good luck with your logic!


    woot woot,i have explained it to him, does that mean that i am illogical? oh sorry, illogical is not the same as not having a logic. my bad...

    and this for my 200th post.

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    Post by crisbong on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:31 pm

    Lahat tayo hnd pabor d2 pero dahil bibilhin SMC ang cocacola natural sila ang magiging owner ng team nito sa PBA....mas gugustuhin ba nating madisolve ang team na to kc makita silang naglalaro sa SMC banner?????..just my two cents...

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    Re: Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by cocker on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:36 pm

    devil unleashed wrote:

    woot woot,i have explained it to him, does that mean that i am illogical? oh sorry, illogical is not the same as not having a logic. my bad...

    and this for my 200th post.


    hahaha, hindi naman bossing. explain at your own risk.

    hindi kasi lahat ng tao may patience magpaliwanag ng common sense doon sa mga wala.

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    Re: Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by benjienator on Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:58 pm

    hahahahah...mga pare kung sa tingin nyo unfair ginawa ni MVP at ni SMC dahil marami silang teams sa PBA, please try nyo sabihan and ROS at ACES na maglagay din ng sister team nila para yong mga player na unemployed magkaroon ng trabaho at makalaro...sayang naman yong mga player na may ibubuga tapos sa bench lang palaging nakaupo..kung marami na PBA teams di masaya at exciting..ano ba magagawa nyo tungkol sa mga sister teams ng PBA..mga mayayaman sila at yon ang dahilan kaya nilang magpa takbo or ang company kayang magpa takbo ng dalawa o tatlong team...ganyan sila mag market na kanilang produkto...kung may magagawa kayo eh di sugod na..kung wala eh di upo nalang kayo dyan at manood..heheheheh...peace mga bro...

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    Re: Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by yton on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:26 pm

    sana si mvp nlang bumili para match
    3 mvp 3 smc
    tsaka mas lalakas pag mvp kumuha

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    Post by mynameisjervis on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:33 pm

    .putik na?!?!?!.. 2 against 8 na ba ngaun sa PBA???.. nako.. sana mglaban sa nxt conference finals ang aces at elasto painters!!!.. para kumain ng lupa at damo ang mga tanginang MVP, SMC atBert Lina franchises na yan!!!.. MGA BUWAYA!!..

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    Post by mynameisjervis on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:37 pm

    ..sorry for the word...

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    Post by FDS on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:37 pm

    mynameisjervis wrote:.putik na?!?!?!.. 2 against 8 na ba ngaun sa PBA???.. nako.. sana mglaban sa nxt conference finals ang aces at elasto painters!!!.. para kumain ng lupa at damo ang mga tanginang MVP, SMC atBert Lina franchises na yan!!!.. MGA BUWAYA!!..


    Pre sorry but I need to give you warning for using profane language.

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    Re: Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by Litejeter on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:43 pm

    Naku pg nagalaw tlga ung big 3 ng Tigers lagot Na tlga., hyz

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    Re: Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by arbie on Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:29 am

    devil unleashed wrote:
    arbie wrote:pakipaliwanag nga kung saan nawala ang CREDIBILITY? ganyan lahat ng sinasabi nyo -- ipaliwanag nyo muna kung bakit mawawala kapag dumami ang team ng isang company?! saka kayo magreklamo na walang KREDIBILIDAD ang PBA kapag taga SMC na rin ang COMMISSIONER! ano yan walang board members?


    Okay, as you wish master, but must have been explained if you read all the comments above, nonetheless giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    PBA comprised of ten (10) teams, four (4) of which are owned by a single Corporation. You might question, is it not becoming too obvious that SMC wanted to control player movements, control the outcome of every conference, and worst control the league?

    First, player movements within SMC will be just a breeze if they wish to upgrade a team of their own by swapping their players by just getting a ‘willing’ team. Thus, what do we get? A trade who will just benefit their team alone.

    Second, you have ten board members, if you have four active board members there, more likely you have the majority of a vote. The percentage of a proposal being made is just very high.

    Lastly, we are not shouting futile arguments, what we are shouting is an obvious FOUL on the very purpose of the league as a whole, we want competition in the basketball court at a higher level, not a competition of those businessmen behind the teams. We want to have a balance player distribution and player movement, not a stupid and cloaked trade just to benefit the few in end.



    so saan pumasok na wala na credibility ang PBA? at commissioner daw parang dummy na lang? -- ikaw na nagsabi 4 na team, sa 10 team ng PBA. kailan pa lumamang ang 4 sa 6? masyado nyo kasi pinangungunahan eh. kung hindi kinuha ng SMC yung POWERADE ano mangyayari sa PBA? sa players? baka may mas matalino kayong sulusyon kesa ginawa ng SMC. ikaw na nagsabi negosyo ang PBA, hindi naman komo 4 ang team mo eh ikaw na agad ang supremo. san ba pinulot yung 3 SMC team nung AFC? ang performance pa rin ng PLAYERS AT TEAMS ang magdidikta ng ganda ng liga at hindi yung kung ano mang tumatakbo sa malilikot nyong imahinasyon.

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    Post by u2dL on Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:45 am

    arbie wrote:
    so saan pumasok na wala na credibility ang PBA? at commissioner daw parang dummy na lang? -- ikaw na nagsabi 4 na team, sa 10 team ng PBA. kailan pa lumamang ang 4 sa 6? masyado nyo kasi pinangungunahan eh. kung hindi kinuha ng SMC yung POWERADE ano mangyayari sa PBA? sa players? baka may mas matalino kayong sulusyon kesa ginawa ng SMC. ikaw na nagsabi negosyo ang PBA, hindi naman komo 4 ang team mo eh ikaw na agad ang supremo. san ba pinulot yung 3 SMC team nung AFC? ang performance pa rin ng PLAYERS AT TEAMS ang magdidikta ng ganda ng liga at hindi yung kung ano mang tumatakbo sa malilikot nyong imahinasyon.


    - Im a bit agree with what arbie said. We really dont know if ang plans ng SMC is palakasin ang Powerade and ofcourse para ma save sa pagka disband ang team na ito. Also just what like Mod Feroza said earlier:

    people, don't forget that PBA allows only up to 3 sister teams and SMC already has 3 (PBB, BGK & bmeg) so if ever SMC wants to buy POW back, they will have to dissolve the team or sell it to another company who wants to join the league.

    - Medyo ata malabo na payagan ang SMC to have more than 3 teams in the league. Noon ata pwede pero ngayon i dont think so, Also Gov. JB Baylon already give his side about this news:

    snowbadua snow badua
    POWERADE GOV. JB BAYLON: Our franchise is still there. Rest assured 2nd and 3rd confy andyan pa kami. Pero siyempre worried ang players

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    Re: Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by 42Forever on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:09 am

    PBA is business, and so as NBA. The more teams a company can own, the more profitable they can be, as long as rules of the league are not broken. If the PBA only allows a company to own 3 teams, then they won't allow the sale unless that rule has been revised without our knowledge. Also, I believe that San Miguel Corporation has been the distributor of Coca-Cola here in the Philippines since several years ago (I've noticed long before that their bottles have SMC trademark in the labels), so if ever Coca-cola would want to sell their PBA team, I believe it is more appropriate if they will first negotiate with a tie-up company, regardless of their existing "right of first refusal" pact.

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    Re: Powerade franchise back with San Miguel

    Post by devil unleashed on Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:26 am

    And you haven’t get it still do you?

    arbie wrote:
    so saan pumasok na wala na credibility ang PBA? at commissioner daw parang dummy na lang? -- ikaw na nagsabi 4 na team, sa 10 team ng PBA. kailan pa lumamang ang 4 sa 6?
    And please don’t put words on our mouth. 4 is really less than 6 kahit saan mo tingnang anggulo, you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. But did your read my post well to end up with such statement? Lemme quote and highlight it for you.

    devil unleashed wrote:Second, you have ten board members, if you have four active board members there, more likely you have the majority of a vote. The percentage of a proposal being made is just very high.
    Mahirap kasi satin, it was presented very obviously and yet we still find ways to go around it. Ask any multinational companies with different stockholders, unless you are not aware still, stockholder with higher shares has the stronger voice in decision making. This is indeed a business.

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    masyado nyo kasi pinangungunahan eh. kung hindi kinuha ng SMC yung POWERADE ano mangyayari sa PBA? sa players? baka may mas matalino kayong sulusyon kesa ginawa ng SMC. ikaw na nagsabi negosyo ang PBA, hindi naman komo 4 ang team mo eh ikaw na agad ang supremo. san ba pinulot yung 3 SMC team nung AFC? ang performance pa rin ng PLAYERS AT TEAMS ang magdidikta ng ganda ng liga at hindi yung kung ano mang tumatakbo sa malilikot nyong imahinasyon.
    Imagination? Have been through lots of imagining and might have been immune with such. But this one is an OBVIOUS OBSERVATION.

    San ba pinulot ang 3 SMC last confy? Sa tingin mo saan ba? Walang nakapasok na team nila sa finals di ba? With that, mas nakakatakot, I’ll will just give you the worst scenario, since SMC teams did not really performed well last conference, what have they done? They traded players , they actually just shuffled player and dispense the dispensable, acquired younger and more promising rookies WITHOUT SWEAT.Yan masa madali na intindihin. :D

    Tanung : Pantay pa rin ba ang balahasan ng mga players sa opinion mo?

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    Post by maldito19 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:24 am

    devil unleashed wrote:And you haven’t get it still do you?

    arbie wrote:
    so saan pumasok na wala na credibility ang PBA? at commissioner daw parang dummy na lang? -- ikaw na nagsabi 4 na team, sa 10 team ng PBA. kailan pa lumamang ang 4 sa 6?
    And please don’t put words on our mouth. 4 is really less than 6 kahit saan mo tingnang anggulo, you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. But did your read my post well to end up with such statement? Lemme quote and highlight it for you.

    devil unleashed wrote:Second, you have ten board members, if you have four active board members there, more likely you have the majority of a vote. The percentage of a proposal being made is just very high.
    Mahirap kasi satin, it was presented very obviously and yet we still find ways to go around it. Ask any multinational companies with different stockholders, unless you are not aware still, stockholder with higher shares has the stronger voice in decision making. This is indeed a business.

    arbie wrote:
    masyado nyo kasi pinangungunahan eh. kung hindi kinuha ng SMC yung POWERADE ano mangyayari sa PBA? sa players? baka may mas matalino kayong sulusyon kesa ginawa ng SMC. ikaw na nagsabi negosyo ang PBA, hindi naman komo 4 ang team mo eh ikaw na agad ang supremo. san ba pinulot yung 3 SMC team nung AFC? ang performance pa rin ng PLAYERS AT TEAMS ang magdidikta ng ganda ng liga at hindi yung kung ano mang tumatakbo sa malilikot nyong imahinasyon.
    Imagination? Have been through lots of imagining and might have been immune with such. But this one is an OBVIOUS OBSERVATION.

    San ba pinulot ang 3 SMC last confy? Sa tingin mo saan ba? Walang nakapasok na team nila sa finals di ba? With that, mas nakakatakot, I’ll will just give you the worst scenario, since SMC teams did not really performed well last conference, what have they done? They traded players , they actually just shuffled player and dispense the dispensable, acquired younger and more promising rookies WITHOUT SWEAT.Yan masa madali na intindihin. :D

    Tanung : Pantay pa rin ba ang balahasan ng mga players sa opinion mo?


    the two gentlemen/ladies here has a valid argument. i think there is nothing wrong with the player movement as long as BALANCE among the team is maintained... imagine if MVP and SMC are traiding players, palagay niyo may magpapalugi ba? pero look if SMC and Lina Group are traiding, balance ba?? sinisira kasi ng Lina group ang integrity ng liga eh....

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    Post by skyflakes25 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:29 am

    anong problema niyo?
    kung ayaw niyo yung nangyari, ganito ang gawin niyo: mag ipon kayo ng US$500,000,000,000,000, tapos bilhin niyo ang SMC at Metro Pacific groups, then decide for yourself what to do with the PBA.
    LOL

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    Post by Cleyred on Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:42 am

    skyflakes25 wrote:anong problema niyo?
    kung ayaw niyo yung nangyari, ganito ang gawin niyo: mag ipon kayo ng US$500,000,000,000,000, tapos bilhin niyo ang SMC at Metro Pacific groups, then decide for yourself what to do with the PBA.
    LOL



    agree..

    puro nega agad hehe..

    i think may plano ang SMC sa powerade, but for now parang contingency lang ang pag sagip nila sa franchise para di madissolve..

    eventually ibebenta nila yan pero this is the tricky part.. hawak ngayon nila kung kanino nila gusto ibenta ang franchise, ayaw nila na may makapasok na ibang franchise na kalaban nila sa business..

    well just my 2 cents..

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    Post by valmanway on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:08 pm

    arbie wrote:[color=brown]
    San ba pinulot ang 3 SMC last confy? Sa tingin mo saan ba? Walang nakapasok na team nila sa finals di ba? With that, mas nakakatakot, I’ll will just give you the worst scenario, since SMC teams did not really performed well last conference, what have they done? They traded players , they actually just shuffled player and dispense the dispensable, acquired younger and more promising rookies WITHOUT SWEAT.Yan masa madali na intindihin. :D

    Tanung : Pantay pa rin ba ang balahasan ng mga players sa opinion mo?


    i agree on this one....

    additional, now SMC has more luxury on reshuffling players again and making Petron and others stronger and with the help of their best bud Lina...

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    Post by devil unleashed on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:15 pm

    skyflakes25 wrote:anong problema niyo?
    kung ayaw niyo yung nangyari, ganito ang gawin niyo: mag ipon kayo ng US$500,000,000,000,000, tapos bilhin niyo ang SMC at Metro Pacific groups, then decide for yourself what to do with the PBA.
    LOL


    Even PBA board chairman Mamerto Mondragon denounce the idea of SMC having four teams in the league but here you are asking us the impossible?...Give me a break. Can you just give a more sensible reasoning other than this?

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    Post by cocker on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:21 pm

    devil unleashed wrote:
    skyflakes25 wrote:anong problema niyo?
    kung ayaw niyo yung nangyari, ganito ang gawin niyo: mag ipon kayo ng US$500,000,000,000,000, tapos bilhin niyo ang SMC at Metro Pacific groups, then decide for yourself what to do with the PBA.
    LOL


    Even PBA board chairman Mamerto Mondragon denounce the idea of SMC having four teams in the league but here you are asking us the impossible?...Give me a break. Can you just give a more sensible reasoning other than this?


    bossing, don't take him seriously. check his stats, all his posts are garbage!

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    Post by arbie on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:25 pm

    the two gentlemen/ladies here has a valid argument. i think there is nothing wrong with the player movement as long as BALANCE among the team is maintained... imagine if MVP and SMC are traiding players, palagay niyo may magpapalugi ba? pero look if SMC and Lina Group are traiding, balance ba?? sinisira kasi ng Lina group ang integrity ng liga eh....

    sa lahat ng binasa ko ito lang ang may SUSTANSYA yung iba kasi sang tambak ang sinabi - walang sense .. BAKET? e inunahan na kasi yung DESISYON ng KUME .. sinabi lang na sa SMC na ulit .. ni wala pa nga kasunod na balita, nag LEVEL UP na agad yung PANTASYA na kesyo mag balasahan na naman at LUGI malamang yung ibang team -- kung ako sa inyo mag INTAY muna kayo na may mangyari, dinaig nyo pa si NOSTRADAMUS sa pag predict ng KAPALARAN ng PBA.

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    Post by dee.cubed on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:37 pm

    Coke denies Powerade Tigers sale to SMC, but PBA team officials alarmed.

    http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/coke-denies-powerade-tigers-sale-to-smc-but-pba-team-officials-alarmed

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